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	<title>Comments on: MacBook Pro Comparison Charts</title>
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		<title>By: DPC</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/01/11/macbook-pro-comparison-charts/comment-page-1/#comment-33673</link>
		<dc:creator>DPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention, Apple doesn&#039;t subsidize hardware costs with adware and cr@pware.  Windows machine developers do.  Even when removing the garbageware, the registry isn&#039;t entirely cleaned up, and even using 3rd party cleaning tools, the registry is not re-compressed.  Which still means slower performance and greater risk of corruption than if the yutzware wasn&#039;t installed to begin with.

If Windows machine brands didn&#039;t do the &quot;Subsidize me with heapware&quot; routine, costs would almost be identical.  Never mind Apple hasn&#039;t any ill-implemented registry to muck things up... or a file system that fragments files as part of its very nature...  or needs a 4GB system to run at an acceptable speed...  (no platform is immune to viruses and malware...  OS X is still by and large cleaner, but nothing is immune so it&#039;s a silly argument to really make in the first place.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention, Apple doesn&#8217;t subsidize hardware costs with adware and cr@pware.  Windows machine developers do.  Even when removing the garbageware, the registry isn&#8217;t entirely cleaned up, and even using 3rd party cleaning tools, the registry is not re-compressed.  Which still means slower performance and greater risk of corruption than if the yutzware wasn&#8217;t installed to begin with.</p>
<p>If Windows machine brands didn&#8217;t do the &#8220;Subsidize me with heapware&#8221; routine, costs would almost be identical.  Never mind Apple hasn&#8217;t any ill-implemented registry to muck things up&#8230; or a file system that fragments files as part of its very nature&#8230;  or needs a 4GB system to run at an acceptable speed&#8230;  (no platform is immune to viruses and malware&#8230;  <acronym title="Operating System">OS</acronym> X is still by and large cleaner, but nothing is immune so it&#8217;s a silly argument to really make in the first place.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/01/11/macbook-pro-comparison-charts/comment-page-1/#comment-27863</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Macbook Pro doesn&#039;t come with HDMI?? what the? I won&#039;t buy unless it comes with HTMI. How am i to hook it up with my HDTV. I don&#039;t want to use two cables -1 for Video and -2 for Sound? what were you thinking Steve Jobs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Macbook Pro doesn&#8217;t come with HDMI?? what the? I won&#8217;t buy unless it comes with HTMI. How am i to hook it up with my HDTV. I don&#8217;t want to use two cables -1 for Video and -2 for Sound? what were you thinking Steve Jobs?</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco Gama</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/01/11/macbook-pro-comparison-charts/comment-page-1/#comment-24747</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco Gama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi
Ignoring the fact that the comparison is outdated, i think that chart benefits Apple.
RAM BUS and ATI graphic card highly underclocked because of known heat problems.   Up to the Modem saying &quot;Apple USB Modem (sold separately)&quot; is the same of &quot;Not Available&quot;. Battery of these new macs lasts less than 3 hours. Oh, it&#039;s a lie that a Mac boots faster. Just a myth.
On details, the Acer includes case and mouse and adapters you have to pay in a Mac.

Of course that Apple design hypnotises a lot of people like most of the comments here but the truth is that they only give a real advantage on a Software discussion.

Thanks

P.S.:
I have a bunch of pc&#039;s, a laptop x86, a macbook and a macbook pro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi<br />
Ignoring the fact that the comparison is outdated, i think that chart benefits Apple.<br />
<acronym title="Random Access Memory">RAM</acronym> BUS and ATI graphic card highly underclocked because of known heat problems.   Up to the Modem saying &#8220;Apple <acronym title="Universal Serial Bus">USB</acronym> Modem (sold separately)&#8221; is the same of &#8220;Not Available&#8221;. Battery of these new macs lasts less than 3 hours. Oh, it&#8217;s a lie that a Mac boots faster. Just a myth.<br />
On details, the Acer includes case and mouse and adapters you have to pay in a Mac.</p>
<p>Of course that Apple design hypnotises a lot of people like most of the comments here but the truth is that they only give a real advantage on a Software discussion.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>P.S.:<br />
I have a bunch of pc&#8217;s, a laptop x86, a macbook and a macbook pro.</p>
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		<title>By: andre</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/01/11/macbook-pro-comparison-charts/comment-page-1/#comment-2700</link>
		<dc:creator>andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omg, who ever wrote this comparison knows NOTHING about macs. This comparison is highly biased. Let me set you straight. The 15inch macbooks come with at LEAST 2.16 ghz WITH 4MB&#039;s of cache, an ati 1600 with 128 OR 256 mmegs of memory, 1 GB STANDARD, 1 firewire 400 and 1 firewire 800, airport extreme that support 802.11 A B G &amp; N with firmware upgrade. BATTERY LIFE IS 4-5 HOURS with standard usage, 1-2 HOURS when playing dvds or other highly intensive tasks.

Beyond all this your buying an apple which can run windows. also CROSSOVER MAC allows you to install windows apps + GAMES without windows.

&quot;anti-shock&quot; - this is alot better than what LIBS describes it as. The computer can detect how many &quot;G&#039;s&quot; the laptop is taking, so lets say it started to fall from your desk, the computer would detect this, stop the hard drive during the high G&#039;s and then turn the hard drive back on when the G&#039;s are back to normal. 

APPLE is a superior pc manufacturer. A wise man once said &quot;if you want to make good software, make good hard ware&quot;. When you buy a pc laptop, most of them are pretty much the same, in fact most of them are made from the same motherboard manufacturer. The reason why people buy apple is not only the the os superior to windows and easy to use, but the hardware is awesome.

that acer is pretty good though. My teacher has one too. but.. apple is better none the less, if i were to get a pc, it would probably be that acer. But why would i want another pc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omg, who ever wrote this comparison knows NOTHING about macs. This comparison is highly biased. Let me set you straight. The 15inch macbooks come with at LEAST 2.16 ghz WITH 4MB&#8217;s of cache, an ati 1600 with 128 OR 256 mmegs of memory, 1 <acronym title="Gigabyte">GB</acronym> STANDARD, 1 firewire 400 and 1 firewire 800, airport extreme that support 802.11 A B G &amp; N with firmware upgrade. BATTERY LIFE IS 4-5 HOURS with standard usage, 1-2 HOURS when playing dvds or other highly intensive tasks.</p>
<p>Beyond all this your buying an apple which can run windows. also CROSSOVER MAC allows you to install windows apps + GAMES without windows.</p>
<p>&#8220;anti-shock&#8221; &#8211; this is alot better than what LIBS describes it as. The computer can detect how many &#8220;G&#8217;s&#8221; the laptop is taking, so lets say it started to fall from your desk, the computer would detect this, stop the hard drive during the high G&#8217;s and then turn the hard drive back on when the G&#8217;s are back to normal. </p>
<p>APPLE is a superior pc manufacturer. A wise man once said &#8220;if you want to make good software, make good hard ware&#8221;. When you buy a pc laptop, most of them are pretty much the same, in fact most of them are made from the same motherboard manufacturer. The reason why people buy apple is not only the the os superior to windows and easy to use, but the hardware is awesome.</p>
<p>that acer is pretty good though. My teacher has one too. but.. apple is better none the less, if i were to get a pc, it would probably be that acer. But why would i want another pc?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/01/11/macbook-pro-comparison-charts/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You left out the most important point: the OS.

The MacBook can run OS X and Windows via BootCamp.  The Acer comes with some version of Windows.  Well, Windows is a steaming pile of shit.  That drops it well below the MacBook in terms of specs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You left out the most important point: the <acronym title="Operating System">OS</acronym>.</p>
<p>The MacBook can run <acronym title="Operating System">OS</acronym> X and Windows via BootCamp.  The Acer comes with some version of Windows.  Well, Windows is a steaming pile of shit.  That drops it well below the MacBook in terms of specs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Prescott</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/01/11/macbook-pro-comparison-charts/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Prescott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 23:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Macbook Pro specs you have published are innacurate. The processors start at 2 GHZ, and the deives do feature e Anti-Shock Protection. It also boots Windows via Bootcamp.&quot;

When the intel laptops were first out the slowest was 1.67



The anti-shock technology is the feature of having the hard drive shut down in a few ms after it detects a shock.... most laptops have this

its also makes having the software smackbook a lot of fun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Macbook Pro specs you have published are innacurate. The processors start at 2 GHZ, and the deives do feature e Anti-Shock Protection. It also boots Windows via Bootcamp.&#8221;</p>
<p>When the intel laptops were first out the slowest was 1.67</p>
<p>The anti-shock technology is the feature of having the hard drive shut down in a few ms after it detects a shock&#8230;. most laptops have this</p>
<p>its also makes having the software smackbook a lot of fun</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/01/11/macbook-pro-comparison-charts/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your MacBook Pro specs are definitely off, but not so much for Jan 11.  However, your analysis ignores the software that comes installed.  The stuff on the Mac is stuff you&#039;d actually want to use.  Also, you ignore the fact that even with the same specs, the Mac will boot much faster (into OS X, if not XP too).  Finally, I get done with things I&#039;m doing way faster on my MacBook Pro.  Everything responds snappier in OS X.  I hate going back to using Windows now, just because I have to wait so long for everything to load and respond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your MacBook Pro specs are definitely off, but not so much for Jan 11.  However, your analysis ignores the software that comes installed.  The stuff on the Mac is stuff you&#8217;d actually want to use.  Also, you ignore the fact that even with the same specs, the Mac will boot much faster (into <acronym title="Operating System">OS</acronym> X, if not XP too).  Finally, I get done with things I&#8217;m doing way faster on my MacBook Pro.  Everything responds snappier in <acronym title="Operating System">OS</acronym> X.  I hate going back to using Windows now, just because I have to wait so long for everything to load and respond.</p>
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		<title>By: Libs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mac looks way nicer aesthetically. But lol &quot;Anti-Shock&quot; protection.... &quot;Anti-shock,&quot; wow what a word. All components in a laptop has its own tested shock resistance (like harddrives have a certain threshold when operating and not operating). The chasis can help a little bit, but &quot;anti-shock&quot;... I think apple&#039;s trying really hard here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <acronym title="Apple Macintosh">mac</acronym> looks way nicer aesthetically. But lol &#8220;Anti-Shock&#8221; protection&#8230;. &#8220;Anti-shock,&#8221; wow what a word. All components in a laptop has its own tested shock resistance (like harddrives have a certain threshold when operating and not operating). The chasis can help a little bit, but &#8220;anti-shock&#8221;&#8230; I think apple&#8217;s trying really hard here.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/01/11/macbook-pro-comparison-charts/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Macbook Pro specs you have published are innacurate. The processors start at 2 GHZ, and the deives do feature e Anti-Shock Protection. It also boots Windows via Bootcamp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Macbook Pro specs you have published are innacurate. The processors start at 2 GHZ, and the deives do feature e Anti-Shock Protection. It also boots Windows via Bootcamp.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/01/11/macbook-pro-comparison-charts/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 00:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newegg has the Travelmate 8200 for slightly less than $2,000 as of 6/19/06</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newegg has the Travelmate 8200 for slightly less than $2,000 as of 6/19/06</p>
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