Comments on: Life After Net Neutrality http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/ Turning Data into Knowledge Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Emily Chang - Designer » Blog Archive » Net Neutrality http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-33660 Emily Chang - Designer » Blog Archive » Net Neutrality Mon, 08 Jun 2009 02:41:47 +0000 http://tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/#comment-33660 [...] Louis has a post, Life after Net Neutrality, that’s also worth reading. Today’s news that the Net Neutrality bill was defeated may [...] […] Louis has a post, Life after Net Neutrality, that’s also worth reading. Today’s news that the Net Neutrality bill was defeated may […]

]]> By: hallac.com » Net Neutrality http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-53 hallac.com » Net Neutrality Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:14:06 +0000 http://tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/#comment-53 [...] I tried to enter this as a comment in Tristan’s blog in response to his post on Net Neutrality, but he seems to be having some problems since his upgrade to Wordpress. As such I have posted it here. You forgot to mention wireless as another avenue to bypass the phone/cable monopoly. Although most of the major carriers are telcoms, some are not (T-Mobile). Imagine a scenario, if you will, where they offer EvDO/wifi base-stations for homes. While speeds of such a solution do not compete with traditional broadband, that will only change over time. [...] […] I tried to enter this as a comment in Tristan’s blog in response to his post on Net Neutrality, but he seems to be having some problems since his upgrade to WordPress. As such I have posted it here. You forgot to mention wireless as another avenue to bypass the phone/cable monopoly. Although most of the major carriers are telcoms, some are not (T-Mobile). Imagine a scenario, if you will, where they offer EvDO/wifi base-stations for homes. While speeds of such a solution do not compete with traditional broadband, that will only change over time. […]

]]> By: Terminal Thought http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-24142 Terminal Thought Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:09:07 +0000 http://tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/#comment-24142 <!--%kramer-pre%-->On a random political note: PLEASE support Net Neutrality!! There was a great article posted about it today about what could very well happen if the bill that's in congress doesn't pass. You can read it here. I've gotten REALLY intense about this issue, since my career is going to be in an internet-dependent field and i would HATE to have to deal with all this crap. On a Google-related note: Google - ogle + d = God. If you want a really good laugh, go<!--%kramer-post%--> On a random political note: PLEASE support Net Neutrality!! There was a great article posted about it today about what could very well happen if the bill that’s in congress doesn’t pass. You can read it here. I’ve gotten REALLY intense about this issue, since my career is going to be in an internet-dependent field and i would HATE to have to deal with all this crap. On a Google-related note: Google — ogle + d = God. If you want a really good laugh, go

]]> By: Seeing Over the Wall &#187; Way Too Much Time on My Hands http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-52 Seeing Over the Wall &#187; Way Too Much Time on My Hands Fri, 07 Jul 2006 21:17:09 +0000 http://tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/#comment-52 [...] Listening to Pandora. My stations are all electronica except one. So far they are Paul Van Dyk, Paul Okenfold, Hybrid, and Ulrich Schnauss. Guess I sort of like Der Gerrrmans and the Brits. Also fooling around on Stumble!, specifically writers’ sites, but sort of disapointed today. The best site I found today was a blog post called Life After Net Neutrality. It’s worth a read because it suggests that the Internet will only get stronger using Mesh networking and the telcos will be shooting themselves in the foot. [...] […] Listening to Pandora. My stations are all electronica except one. So far they are Paul Van Dyk, Paul Okenfold, Hybrid, and Ulrich Schnauss. Guess I sort of like Der Gerrrmans and the Brits. Also fooling around on Stumble!, specifically writers&#8217; sites, but sort of disapointed today. The best site I found today was a blog post called Life After Net Neutrality. It&#8217;s worth a read because it suggests that the Internet will only get stronger using Mesh networking and the telcos will be shooting themselves in the foot. […]

]]> By: beTech :: Evolve Already http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-24144 beTech :: Evolve Already Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:04:01 +0000 http://tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/#comment-24144 <!--%kramer-pre%--> So the Net Neutrality bill was squashed by Congress last week. No worries. According to Tristan Louis there’sLife After Net Neutrality. Should the phone/cable interests continue to get their way, Tristan posits that the short-term prognosis is indeed a degradation of the web as we know it today. At least in the grand ole US of A. Companies outside the United States will leverage<!--%kramer-post%--> So the Net Neutrality bill was squashed by Congress last week. No worries. According to Tristan Louis there’sLife After Net Neutrality. Should the phone/cable interests continue to get their way, Tristan posits that the short-term prognosis is indeed a degradation of the web as we know it today. At least in the grand ole US of A. Companies outside the United States will leverage

]]> By: Reshaping TV http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Reshaping TV Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:54:50 +0000 http://tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/#comment-51 [...] There doesn't seem to be much new in that piece to people who are interested in that space but I would contend that, when you look at it in perspective, it explains a lot about why TV stations are so interested in ending net neutrality. The fight over net neutrality is about imposing artificial barriers in order to protect monopolies. However, the new threats presented by upstarts like myTube are upsetting the apple cart and traditional companies are now trying to find a way to ensure that their monopolies are protected. Of course, they're never going to say it that way but, ultimately, the fight over net neutrality is a fight over what content will be available. As I've mentioned in my earlier piece on net neutrality, the battle is primarily one happening around the future of the internet in the United States. And, in thinking some more about it, I've come to the realization that, at the end of the day, the US companies opposing net neutrality may be fighting not only for the benefits of the telco providers but also for the benefits of the large content producers. in Convergence, News, Business - - - [...] […] There doesn&#39;t seem to be much new in that piece to people who are interested in that space but I would contend that, when you look at it in perspective, it explains a lot about why TV stations are so interested in ending net neutrality. The fight over net neutrality is about imposing artificial barriers in order to protect monopolies. However, the new threats presented by upstarts like myTube are upsetting the apple cart and traditional companies are now trying to find a way to ensure that their monopolies are protected. Of course, they&#39;re never going to say it that way but, ultimately, the fight over net neutrality is a fight over what content will be available. As I&#39;ve mentioned in my earlier piece on net neutrality, the battle is primarily one happening around the future of the internet in the United States. And, in thinking some more about it, I&#39;ve come to the realization that, at the end of the day, the US companies opposing net neutrality may be fighting not only for the benefits of the telco providers but also for the benefits of the large content producers. in Convergence, News, Business — — - […]

]]> By: The Doc Searls Weblog : Sunday, April 8, 2007 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-24145 The Doc Searls Weblog : Sunday, April 8, 2007 Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:40:03 +0000 http://tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/#comment-24145 <!--%kramer-pre%-->never get Net Neutrality from the carriers, from lawmakers or from regulators. But we can get it from each other, in the form of new businesses that can grow skyscrapers in the market holes the carriers choose to ignore. Let's start focusing on that.Here's one idea. Oh, one more thing. The bill that passed the house flipped a large bird in the general direction of the nation's municipalities, which have held franchising authority over local video services for a long time. There are cases to be made against that<!--%kramer-post%--> never get Net Neutrality from the carriers, from lawmakers or from regulators. But we can get it from each other, in the form of new businesses that can grow skyscrapers in the market holes the carriers choose to ignore. Let’s start focusing on that.Here’s one idea. Oh, one more thing. The bill that passed the house flipped a large bird in the general direction of the nation’s municipalities, which have held franchising authority over local video services for a long time. There are cases to be made against that

]]> By: Emily Chang - Strategic Designer http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-24146 Emily Chang - Strategic Designer Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:52:00 +0000 http://tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/#comment-24146 <!--%kramer-pre%--> to broadband providers, said Rep. Ed Markey, the Massachusetts Democrat behind the Net neutrality amendment. This vote will change “the Internet for the rest of eternity,” he warned. Tristan Louis has a post, Life after Net Neutrality, that’s also worth reading. Today’s news that the Net Neutrality bill was defeated may create future problems for American internet businesses but will not kill the Internet, as some have claimed. Instead, it will probably dictate, in the long<!--%kramer-post%--> to broadband providers, said Rep. Ed Markey, the Massachusetts Democrat behind the Net neutrality amendment. This vote will change “the Internet for the rest of eternity,” he warned. Tristan Louis has a post, Life after Net Neutrality, that’s also worth reading. Today’s news that the Net Neutrality bill was defeated may create future problems for American internet businesses but will not kill the Internet, as some have claimed. Instead, it will probably dictate, in the long

]]> By: Lemi4 aka. fERDI:) http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-49 Lemi4 aka. fERDI:) Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:26:57 +0000 http://tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/#comment-49 >... could result in people abandoning the telcos altogether, if Mesh networks take off. Could the telcos in turn target mesh-networking infrastructure in retaliation? Or even mesh-networking related industries? And if the telcos can, are they crazy enough to try it? Should turn into an interesting business war, should it come to pass... &gt;… could result in people abandoning the telcos altogether, if Mesh networks take off.

Could the telcos in turn target mesh-networking infrastructure in retaliation? Or even mesh-networking related industries? And if the telcos can, are they crazy enough to try it?

Should turn into an interesting business war, should it come to pass…

]]> By: hallac.com http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-24147 hallac.com Fri, 09 Jun 2006 22:50:30 +0000 http://tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/#comment-24147 <!--%kramer-pre%-->Net Neutrality, but he seems to be having some problems since his upgrade to Wordpress. As such I have posted it here. You forgot to mention wireless as another avenue to bypass the phone/cable monopoly.  Although most of the major carriers are telcoms, some are<!--%kramer-post%--> Net Neutrality, but he seems to be having some problems since his upgrade to WordPress. As such I have posted it here. You forgot to mention wireless as another avenue to bypass the phone/cable monopoly.  Although most of the major carriers are telcoms, some are

]]> By: Daniel http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-48 Daniel Fri, 09 Jun 2006 18:54:35 +0000 http://tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/#comment-48 You forgot to mention wireless as another avenue to bypass the phone/cable monopoly. Although most of the major carriers are telcoms, some are not (T-Mobile). Imagine a scenario, if you will, where they offer EvDO/wifi base-stations for homes. While speeds of such a solution do not compete with traditional broadband, that will only change over time. Leaving municipal WIFI aside (another possibility) couldn’t Google/Yahoo/MSFT enter into MVO agreement and operate it at as a loss leader? They may even be willing to subsidize T-Mobile for expanding their network or even buy it outright. The reality is that most people are used to the Net as it is and will not agree to any limitations. They will find a way around it. You forgot to mention wireless as another avenue to bypass the phone/cable monopoly. Although most of the major carriers are telcoms, some are not (T-Mobile). Imagine a scenario, if you will, where they offer EvDO/wifi base-stations for homes. While speeds of such a solution do not compete with traditional broadband, that will only change over time.

Leaving municipal WIFI aside (another possibility) couldn’t Google/Yahoo/MSFT enter into MVO agreement and operate it at as a loss leader? They may even be willing to subsidize T-Mobile for expanding their network or even buy it outright.

The reality is that most people are used to the Net as it is and will not agree to any limitations. They will find a way around it.

]]> By: by the meltingpot http://www.tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-24143 by the meltingpot Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://tnl.net/blog/2006/06/08/life-after-net-neutrality/#comment-24143 <!--%kramer-pre%--> Here is a good read<!--%kramer-post%--> Here is a good read

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