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		<title>By: Fauxpeness &#171;The TNL.net weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/05/running-the-numbers-on-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-33846</link>
		<dc:creator>Fauxpeness &#171;The TNL.net weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But, only two years ago, the answer would have been Second Life (something I learned first hand, having been part of the hype around it back [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Second Life Growth Accelerates &#124; Latent Semantic Indexing</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/05/running-the-numbers-on-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-7035</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Life Growth Accelerates &#124; Latent Semantic Indexing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Still, impressive - and expected - growth. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Second Life&#8217;s accelerating growth at NevilleHobson.com</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/05/running-the-numbers-on-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-3653</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Life&#8217;s accelerating growth at NevilleHobson.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Still, impressive - and expected - growth. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Morris Vig</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/05/running-the-numbers-on-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-1817</link>
		<dc:creator>Morris Vig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed with Prokofy Neva.  The premium accounts are critical.

In addition, it would be worthwhile to track the number of unverified accounts.  An indvidual griefer attack (a malicious user, using an unverified account for the purposes of anonymity) can create a handful of unverified accounts in a single attack.  

An example for the uninformed: A griefer logs on to an unverified account and launches a malicious, self-replicating object at an event.  SL residents advise Linden Labs staff, who banish the account.  Griefer, having been banned, reenters SL with unverfied account #2.  SL residents again advise Linden Labs, who in turn bans the griefer&#039;s new account.  And so on.  A given griefer attack - like one I personally witnessed this week - can create 5 new unverified accounts before the griefer apparently gets bored and leaves.  

Now, unverified accounts also are used for more productive aims.  But I would hazard to guess that many of the accounts where users are NOT logging back in are griefers.  

As a side note on griefers, their attacks are increasing in Second Life.  I suspect that control of these attacks will be a major focus of future software upgrades - especially as more and more corporate (read: big dollar spending) customers are coming on line and Linden Labs cannot afford any egg on its face just as it appears to have hit the tipping point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed with Prokofy Neva.  The premium accounts are critical.</p>
<p>In addition, it would be worthwhile to track the number of unverified accounts.  An indvidual griefer attack (a malicious user, using an unverified account for the purposes of anonymity) can create a handful of unverified accounts in a single attack.  </p>
<p>An example for the uninformed: A griefer logs on to an unverified account and launches a malicious, self-replicating object at an event.  SL residents advise Linden Labs staff, who banish the account.  Griefer, having been banned, reenters SL with unverfied account #2.  SL residents again advise Linden Labs, who in turn bans the griefer&#8217;s new account.  And so on.  A given griefer attack &#8211; like one I personally witnessed this week &#8211; can create 5 new unverified accounts before the griefer apparently gets bored and leaves.  </p>
<p>Now, unverified accounts also are used for more productive aims.  But I would hazard to guess that many of the accounts where users are NOT logging back in are griefers.  </p>
<p>As a side note on griefers, their attacks are increasing in Second Life.  I suspect that control of these attacks will be a major focus of future software upgrades &#8211; especially as more and more corporate (read: big dollar spending) customers are coming on line and Linden Labs cannot afford any egg on its face just as it appears to have hit the tipping point.</p>
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		<title>By: Raph</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/05/running-the-numbers-on-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-1394</link>
		<dc:creator>Raph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, am I mistaken in thinking that the $50-60 is just a measure of liquidity? I give $5 to you, you spend it, that person spends it, the next person spends it, and it looks like $20 in transactions. That&#039;s what those figures are measuring. It in no way means that all of that is revenue flowing into Linden or (net) into the hands of users. It&#039;s velocity, not quantity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, am I mistaken in thinking that the $50-60 is just a measure of liquidity? I give $5 to you, you spend it, that person spends it, the next person spends it, and it looks like $20 in transactions. That&#8217;s what those figures are measuring. It in no way means that all of that is revenue flowing into Linden or (net) into the hands of users. It&#8217;s velocity, not quantity.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/05/running-the-numbers-on-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-1382</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to keep your eye on the number of those who buy premium accounts who own land on the mainland. I think it&#039;s a good number to watch to see if the world is really growing. Add to that the number of new islands bought and number of island owners. The tier-payers and island-bill payers are the people who provide 70 percent of Linden Lab&#039;s revenue, they are like another venture capitalist, taken as a group, spending more than $10 million a year. This figure isn&#039;t over 40,000 people right now, but they account for most of the high end of the economic transactions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to keep your eye on the number of those who buy premium accounts who own land on the mainland. I think it&#8217;s a good number to watch to see if the world is really growing. Add to that the number of new islands bought and number of island owners. The tier-payers and island-bill payers are the people who provide 70 percent of Linden Lab&#8217;s revenue, they are like another venture capitalist, taken as a group, spending more than $10 million a year. This figure isn&#8217;t over 40,000 people right now, but they account for most of the high end of the economic transactions.</p>
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		<title>By: CC</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/05/running-the-numbers-on-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-1145</link>
		<dc:creator>CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linden Labs numbers are being bloated by the use of resident created bots. I own just one sim and have banned over 150. If this is any indication of the *numbers* then everyone is being fooled.

Apparently LL doesn&#039;t allow it because they did delete over 100 bots with greek first names in December. Now the bots have profiles and group names and are hard to distinguish from other residents. 

I would rather see on Linden Labs front page the actual number of paying residents or residents with payment info on file. All this hype over their growing numbers is hilarious...but then Linden Lab is laughing all the way to the bank...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linden Labs numbers are being bloated by the use of resident created bots. I own just one sim and have banned over 150. If this is any indication of the *numbers* then everyone is being fooled.</p>
<p>Apparently LL doesn&#8217;t allow it because they did delete over 100 bots with greek first names in December. Now the bots have profiles and group names and are hard to distinguish from other residents. </p>
<p>I would rather see on Linden Labs front page the actual number of paying residents or residents with payment info on file. All this hype over their growing numbers is hilarious&#8230;but then Linden Lab is laughing all the way to the bank&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: update: Second Life in nrc.next at 0031 New Media Development</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/05/running-the-numbers-on-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-1081</link>
		<dc:creator>update: Second Life in nrc.next at 0031 New Media Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Naast alle hallelujaberichten over Second Life zijn er gelukkig ook mensen die &#8216;harde&#8217; cijfers bijhouden over Second Life: check: http://tnl.net/blog/2007/01/05/running-the-numbers-on-second-life/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Naast alle hallelujaberichten over Second Life zijn er gelukkig ook mensen die &#8216;harde&#8217; cijfers bijhouden over Second Life: check: <a href="http://tnl.net/blog/2007/01/05/running-the-numbers-on-second-life/" rel="nofollow">http://tnl.net/blog/2007/01/05/running-the-numbers-on-second-life/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Venture Chronicles</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/05/running-the-numbers-on-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-975</link>
		<dc:creator>Venture Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The link below has an interesting analysis of the SL numbers and how much money people are spending in the virtual world. The TNL.net weblog Â» Running the Numbers on Second Life: So, it looks that, under the most conservative growth rate, we will see 3.5 million users registered and over 600,000 using the service by the end of April 2007. Under a liberal interpretation of the data, those numbers would shift to 9.6 million and just under 7 million. However, in the most likely case, it is probable that there will be 7.2 million users registered with 1.6 million logging in over the previous sixty days. Not too shabby. For the sake of planning, I would advise my readers to go with the most conservative estimate because my data set is still relatively small. Even then, this type of growth mirrors some of the growth patterns weâ€™ve seen in the early days of the commercial web and seem to support the contention that LindenLab is going to be a very strong player in the future. Technorati Tags: Second Life Posted in Uncategorized &#124;&#124; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The link below has an interesting analysis of the SL numbers and how much money people are spending in the virtual world. The <acronym title="Tristan Nicolas Louis">TNL</acronym>.net weblog Â» Running the Numbers on Second Life: So, it looks that, under the most conservative growth rate, we will see 3.5 million users registered and over 600,000 using the service by the end of April 2007. Under a liberal interpretation of the data, those numbers would shift to 9.6 million and just under 7 million. However, in the most likely case, it is probable that there will be 7.2 million users registered with 1.6 million logging in over the previous sixty days. Not too shabby. For the sake of planning, I would advise my readers to go with the most conservative estimate because my data set is still relatively small. Even then, this type of growth mirrors some of the growth patterns weâ€™ve seen in the early days of the commercial web and seem to support the contention that LindenLab is going to be a very strong player in the future. Technorati Tags: Second Life Posted in Uncategorized || [...]</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-01-09 at Metaverse Territories</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2007-01-09 at Metaverse Territories</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Running the Numbers on Second Life The TNL.net weblog&gt; under the most conservative growth rate, we will see 3.5 million users registered and over 600,000 using the service by the end of April 2007 (tags: business data secondlife statistics trends population online mmorpg) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Running the Numbers on Second Life The <acronym title="Tristan Nicolas Louis">TNL</acronym>.net weblog&gt; under the most conservative growth rate, we will see 3.5 million users registered and over 600,000 using the service by the end of April 2007 (tags: business data secondlife statistics trends population online mmorpg) [...]</p>
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