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		<title>By: Safari: Apple&#8217;s New Platform?</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-here/comment-page-2/#comment-27981</link>
		<dc:creator>Safari: Apple&#8217;s New Platform?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first popular line is that it works as a good environment for developing applications for the iPhone, now that Steve Jobs has stated that this would be the only way developers can currently develop [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first popular line is that it works as a good environment for developing applications for the iPhone, now that Steve Jobs has stated that this would be the only way developers can currently develop [...]</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone 2: More than meets the eye</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-here/comment-page-2/#comment-27059</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone 2: More than meets the eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been much written about Steve Jobs&#8217; keynote on Monday, introducing a new version of the iPhone, a rebranded version of .mac, and a new version of the OSX Operating System. However, amid all the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has been much written about Steve Jobs&#8217; keynote on Monday, introducing a new version of the iPhone, a rebranded version of .mac, and a new version of the <acronym title="Operating System 10">OSX</acronym> Operating System. However, amid all the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: iTRIXX</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-here/comment-page-2/#comment-24343</link>
		<dc:creator>iTRIXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] zou de multi-touch-displays maken. En zal LG de iPhone in elkaar zetten?  De iPhone wordt veel vergeleken met de zogenaamde smartphones, ondanks dat hij door Apple helemaal niet als zodanig geprofileerd wordt. Qua prijs echter, zou je [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] zou de multi-touch-displays maken. En zal LG de iPhone in elkaar zetten?  De iPhone wordt veel vergeleken met de zogenaamde smartphones, ondanks dat hij door Apple helemaal niet als zodanig geprofileerd wordt. Qua prijs echter, zou je [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Tom B</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-here/comment-page-2/#comment-1478</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that 3 of your 6 example run Windows CE demonstrates the execrable, sorry state of the current &quot;smart&quot; phone marketplace. I encourage people to watch the iPhone segment of Steve Job&#039;s keynote-- it&#039;s a riveting demo. These babies look pretty amazing. I bet they WILL follow it up with the first practical/desirable UPMC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that 3 of your 6 example run Windows CE demonstrates the execrable, sorry state of the current &#8220;smart&#8221; phone marketplace. I encourage people to watch the iPhone segment of Steve Job&#8217;s keynote&#8211; it&#8217;s a riveting demo. These babies look pretty amazing. I bet they WILL follow it up with the first practical/desirable UPMC.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramses</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-here/comment-page-2/#comment-1383</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One possible reason for the lack of 3G is that Apple doesn&#039;t own any of the patents required to build and sell products that adhere to the 3G standards. Nokia, Motorola, Ericsson and Qualcomm own the patents and ahare them through a pool, where they pay only small net payments to each other. 

One of the key reasons Sony paired with Ericsson in the phone business was this very reason. I don&#039;t know the specifics any arrangements Apple may have, but I&#039;d assume that the same logic applies here that applied at Sony: if Apple added 3G to the iPhone it would have to hand over around 10% of the selling price for each unit to Nokia, Motorola &amp; co. This applies to EDGE too, by the way - Apple is going to pay royalties to the established vendors. 

Taking the N95 as an example, it&#039;s data rate is around ten times faster than the iPhone owing to HSDPA, which comes in handy when downloading of streaming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One possible reason for the lack of <acronym title="3rd Generation Wireless Format">3G</acronym> is that Apple doesn&#8217;t own any of the patents required to build and sell products that adhere to the <acronym title="3rd Generation Wireless Format">3G</acronym> standards. Nokia, Motorola, Ericsson and Qualcomm own the patents and ahare them through a pool, where they pay only small net payments to each other. </p>
<p>One of the key reasons Sony paired with Ericsson in the phone business was this very reason. I don&#8217;t know the specifics any arrangements Apple may have, but I&#8217;d assume that the same logic applies here that applied at Sony: if Apple added <acronym title="3rd Generation Wireless Format">3G</acronym> to the iPhone it would have to hand over around 10% of the selling price for each unit to Nokia, Motorola &amp; co. This applies to EDGE too, by the way &#8211; Apple is going to pay royalties to the established vendors. </p>
<p>Taking the N95 as an example, it&#8217;s data rate is around ten times faster than the iPhone owing to HSDPA, which comes in handy when downloading of streaming.</p>
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		<title>By: Heleen</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-here/comment-page-2/#comment-1126</link>
		<dc:creator>Heleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I;m in Europe where we text a lot. I would not move to a touch pad screen because I can text with teh phone in my pocket by feeling the keys. I would&#039;t be able to do that with the iPhone. I have a Nokia N70 which works wonders as a personal phone (text/camera) and a business phone (email/browsing). And for a fraction of the cost.

Also I&#039;d be worried about scratching the big screen. Obvisouly Steve doesn&#039;t keep his in a handbag!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I;m in Europe where we text a lot. I would not move to a touch pad screen because I can text with teh phone in my pocket by feeling the keys. I would&#8217;t be able to do that with the iPhone. I have a Nokia N70 which works wonders as a personal phone (text/camera) and a business phone (email/browsing). And for a fraction of the cost.</p>
<p>Also I&#8217;d be worried about scratching the big screen. Obvisouly Steve doesn&#8217;t keep his in a handbag!</p>
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		<title>By: Isidore</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-here/comment-page-2/#comment-1084</link>
		<dc:creator>Isidore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a phone for America. The US has a seriously disfunctional mobile phone market and this shows in this product. The interface is great unless of course you want to write emails or send texts- the palm like handwriting recognition of the sony ericsson smart phones is surely faster than hunt and peck, whether on a traditional keypad or a virtual one. And as for no 3G speed, it just won&#039;t hack it in Europe for web browsing. But the basic concept is great- the next generation should be a real contender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a phone for America. The US has a seriously disfunctional mobile phone market and this shows in this product. The interface is great unless of course you want to write emails or send texts- the palm like handwriting recognition of the sony ericsson smart phones is surely faster than hunt and peck, whether on a traditional keypad or a virtual one. And as for no <acronym title="3rd Generation Wireless Format">3G</acronym> speed, it just won&#8217;t hack it in Europe for web browsing. But the basic concept is great- the next generation should be a real contender.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Sox</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-here/comment-page-2/#comment-1060</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Sox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really need to compare this to the O2 line of phones, these are all dumbphones

http://www.gsmarena.com/o2-phones-30.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really need to compare this to the O2 line of phones, these are all dumbphones</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gsmarena.com/o2-phones-30.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.gsmarena.com/o2-phones-30.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert NIcholson</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-here/comment-page-2/#comment-1059</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert NIcholson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple missed an opportunity here to delivery audio/video chat over Wifi. Clearly Cingular wouldn&#039;t like it but their 3g network doesn&#039;t even support video calling. Apple had an opportunity put a smart isight in the phone and give people an VoIP experience unseen today when using wifi connections but instead have pandered to Cingular. This phone isn&#039;t going to sell very well outside the US where customers expect 3g like features today not tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple missed an opportunity here to delivery audio/video chat over Wifi. Clearly Cingular wouldn&#8217;t like it but their 3g network doesn&#8217;t even support video calling. Apple had an opportunity put a smart isight in the phone and give people an <acronym title="Voice Over Internet Protocol">VoIP</acronym> experience unseen today when using wifi connections but instead have pandered to Cingular. This phone isn&#8217;t going to sell very well outside the US where customers expect 3g like features today not tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-here/comment-page-2/#comment-1055</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect it includes only the slower EDGE in order to keep down the monthly fee.

True broadband speed over cellular usually requires add-on data plans with hefty monthly fees (e.g. $60 w/ a voice plan, $80 w/o for Verizon EVDO)

This way you pay one fee but are stuck with speeds about 2x-3x dialup (when away from Wi-Fi networks)

So if you&#039;re used to broadband internet, you won&#039;t be using the iPhone for traditional web surfing, but it will be fine for email and WAP sites via EDGE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect it includes only the slower EDGE in order to keep down the monthly fee.</p>
<p>True broadband speed over cellular usually requires add-on data plans with hefty monthly fees (e.g. $60 w/ a voice plan, $80 w/o for Verizon EVDO)</p>
<p>This way you pay one fee but are stuck with speeds about 2x-3x dialup (when away from <acronym title="Wireless Fidelity">Wi-Fi</acronym> networks)</p>
<p>So if you&#8217;re used to broadband internet, you won&#8217;t be using the iPhone for traditional web surfing, but it will be fine for email and <acronym title="Wireless Access Protocol">WAP</acronym> sites via EDGE.</p>
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