Comments on: Safari: Apple’s New Platform? http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/ Turning Data into Knowledge Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Open or Closed? «The TNL.net weblog http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-33813 Open or Closed? «The TNL.net weblog Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:02:52 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-33813 [...] of changes to the XML files (more info on the content of those XMLs up until yesterday can be found in a previous entry. If anyone out there knows why Apple is now encrypting what looked like an open standard, please [...] […] of changes to the XML files (more info on the content of those XMLs up until yesterday can be found in a previous entry. If anyone out there knows why Apple is now encrypting what looked like an open standard, please […]

]]> By: Hot Links http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24632 Hot Links Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:02:09 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24632 <!--%kramer-pre%--> [IMG ] <!--%kramer-post%--> [IMG ]

]]> By: Simon Bédard http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24619 Simon Bédard Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:36:12 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24619 <!--%kramer-pre%-->Firefox, pour ensuite seulement vérifier si le tout fonctionne sur Mac et son navigateur vedette de même que sur l’iPhone, on pourra développer directement pour Safari et on fera d’une pierre trois coups. Mais, Tristan Louis pousse un peu plus l’analyse. Selon lui, Apple n’aurait pas pour but principal de convertir les habitués de Windows, qui sont très nombreux, a transférer vers le Mac, mais plutôt d’étendre sa présence afin de contrôler toujours plus d<!--%kramer-post%--> Firefox, pour ensuite seulement vérifier si le tout fonctionne sur Mac et son navigateur vedette de même que sur l’iPhone, on pourra développer directement pour Safari et on fera d’une pierre trois coups. Mais, Tristan Louis pousse un peu plus l’analyse. Selon lui, Apple n’aurait pas pour but principal de convertir les habitués de Windows, qui sont très nombreux, a transférer vers le Mac, mais plutôt d’étendre sa présence afin de contrôler toujours plus d

]]> By: Gareth http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24626 Gareth Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:43:50 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24626 I wouldn't read too much into bonjour being installed with Safari. Safari makes use of bonjour in that it allows you to navigate to zeroconf servers near you. It was also recently open-sourced by Apple, as they were disapointed that no-one was using it, despite it being a fantastic way to network groups of computers easily. I wouldn’t read too much into bonjour being installed with Safari.
Safari makes use of bonjour in that it allows you to navigate to zeroconf servers near you.

It was also recently open-sourced by Apple, as they were disapointed that no-one was using it, despite it being a fantastic way to network groups of computers easily.

]]> By: Phillip Winn http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24625 Phillip Winn Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:29:13 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24625 Safari uses Bonjour to do some neat things with bookmarks and address books. That's all the installation indicates. The existence of Safari for Windows is enough to indicate that Apple wants to play in the Windows sandbox; no need to reach. Safari uses Bonjour to do some neat things with bookmarks and address books. That’s all the installation indicates. The existence of Safari for Windows is enough to indicate that Apple wants to play in the Windows sandbox; no need to reach.

]]> By: rob http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24617 rob Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:45:03 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24617 I think you're missing the most obvious reason: market share for search revenue. John Gruber at Daring Fireball nails it: <blockquote><i> It’s not widely publicized, but those integrated search bars in web browser toolbars are revenue generators. When you do a Google search from Safari’s toolbar, Google pays Apple a portion of the ad revenue from the resulting page. (Ever notice the “client=safari” string in the URL query?) </i></blockquote> <a href="http://daringfireball.net/2007/06/wwdc_2007_keynote" rel="nofollow">http://daringfireball.net/2007/06/wwdc_2007_keynote</a> I think you’re missing the most obvious reason: market share for search revenue. John Gruber at Daring Fireball nails it:


It’s not widely publicized, but those integrated search bars in web browser toolbars are revenue generators. When you do a Google search from Safari’s toolbar, Google pays Apple a portion of the ad revenue from the resulting page. (Ever notice the “client=safari” string in the URL query?)

http://daringfireball.net/2007/06/wwdc_2007_keynote

]]> By: Dave http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24615 Dave Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:53:28 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24615 ...but apple's a *hardware* company! :) …but apple’s a *hardware* company! :)

]]> By: Techmeme http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24622 Techmeme Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:21:05 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24622 <!--%kramer-pre%--> + Discussion: Guardian Unlimited, CyberNet Technology News, TNL.net, ha.ckers.org web …, InfoWorld, Slashdot and digg <!--%kramer-post%--> + Discussion: Guardian Unlimited, CyberNet Technology News, TNL.net, ha.ckers.org web …, InfoWorld, Slashdot and digg

]]> By: Venture Chronicles http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24604 Venture Chronicles Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:25:45 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24604 <!--%kramer-pre%-->it’s all based on the fact that we have the full Safari engine in the iPhone. And so you can write amazing Web 2.0 and AJAX apps that look and behave exactly like apps on the iPhone, and these apps can integrate perfectly with iPhone services.” Tristian Louis goes into more detail on what Apple is doing with the Safari platform with the iPhone. Secondly, it will come as no great surprise to anyone that the biggest impediment to broad-based mobile application success is the carriers themselves<!--%kramer-post%--> it’s all based on the fact that we have the full Safari engine in the iPhone. And so you can write amazing Web 2.0 and AJAX apps that look and behave exactly like apps on the iPhone, and these apps can integrate perfectly with iPhone services.” Tristian Louis goes into more detail on what Apple is doing with the Safari platform with the iPhone. Secondly, it will come as no great surprise to anyone that the biggest impediment to broad-based mobile application success is the carriers themselves

]]> By: Blog | Blue Flavor http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24607 Blog | Blue Flavor Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:53:04 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24607 <!--%kramer-pre%-->up around the block eagerly waiting to get their hands on an iPhone they can call their industry analyst, Tristan Louis, has post a great write up about what is really going on here. Its not about a new product or a new software release, its about Apple’s New Platform<!--%kramer-post%--> up around the block eagerly waiting to get their hands on an iPhone they can call their industry analyst, Tristan Louis, has post a great write up about what is really going on here. Its not about a new product or a new software release, its about Apple’s New Platform

]]> By: Alex’s Soapbox http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24634 Alex’s Soapbox Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:00:00 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24634 <!--%kramer-pre%-->article<!--%kramer-post%--> article

]]> By: astrofish.net/xenon http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24637 astrofish.net/xenon Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:00:00 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24637 <!--%kramer-pre%-->is from Argentina (along with Oberto), and Tony P? Born in Belgium, raised in France. Bexar County Line Six Miles: Sad state of affairs, and I regularly walk in excess of six miles. Might make me really old fashioned. Safari: Good talking points, one and all. Two Meat Tuesday (the book) <!--%kramer-post%--> is from Argentina (along with Oberto), and Tony P? Born in Belgium, raised in France. Bexar County Line Six Miles: Sad state of affairs, and I regularly walk in excess of six miles. Might make me really old fashioned. Safari: Good talking points, one and all. Two Meat Tuesday (the book)

]]> By: Leave It Behind > Brian Bailey http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24643 Leave It Behind > Brian Bailey Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:00:00 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24643 <!--%kramer-pre%-->Safari: Apple's New Platform? [via Blue Flavor] Between the Lines: Safari development for the iPhone Here is Apple's original announcement on building apps for the iPhone through the Safari browser and current Web 2.0 technologies. And one more thing: you will soon have a <!--%kramer-post%--> Safari: Apple’s New Platform? [via Blue Flavor] Between the Lines: Safari development for the iPhone Here is Apple’s original announcement on building apps for the iPhone through the Safari browser and current Web 2.0 technologies. And one more thing: you will soon have a

]]> By: Leave It Behind > Brian Bailey http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24685 Leave It Behind > Brian Bailey Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:00:00 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24685 <!--%kramer-pre%--><!--%kramer-post%-->

]]> By: O'Grady's PowerPage - Your Mobile Technology Destination http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24602 O'Grady's PowerPage - Your Mobile Technology Destination Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24602 <!--%kramer-pre%-->upon further down the line (then again, hope springs eternal.) But all this is really besides the point. In order to see what is happening, one must start thinking about why would Apple think about a new browser today. For the full blog entry, click here. If you have an opinion on this, let us know. [IMG] Post to del.icio.us | [IMG] Post to Furl Read More | Comments (0) | Forums Category: Opinion Buy from: Apple[IMG], iTunes[IMG], Amazon[IMG ]<!--%kramer-post%--> upon further down the line (then again, hope springs eternal.) But all this is really besides the point. In order to see what is happening, one must start thinking about why would Apple think about a new browser today. For the full blog entry, click here. If you have an opinion on this, let us know. [IMG] Post to del.icio.us | [IMG] Post to Furl Read More | Comments (0) | Forums Category: Opinion Buy from: Apple[IMG], iTunes[IMG], Amazon[IMG ]

]]> By: Design and Development for Web + Mobile | Blue Flavor http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24606 Design and Development for Web + Mobile | Blue Flavor Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24606 <!--%kramer-pre%-->up around the block eagerly waiting to get their hands on an iPhone they can call their industry analyst, Tristan Louis, has post a great write up about what is really going on here. Its not about a new product or a new software release, its about Apple’s New Platform<!--%kramer-post%--> up around the block eagerly waiting to get their hands on an iPhone they can call their industry analyst, Tristan Louis, has post a great write up about what is really going on here. Its not about a new product or a new software release, its about Apple’s New Platform

]]> By: A little bit about everything http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24620 A little bit about everything Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24620 <!--%kramer-pre%--> Safari: innocuous browser alternative or sneaky way for Apple to build its homegrown platform on top of Windows? Through suggestions and bundling Apple is installing more on your PC than just a browser. Posted in Array | No Comments » <!--%kramer-post%--> Safari: innocuous browser alternative or sneaky way for Apple to build its homegrown platform on top of Windows? Through suggestions and bundling Apple is installing more on your PC than just a browser. Posted in Array | No Comments »

]]> By: Lacy Ice + Heat http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24621 Lacy Ice + Heat Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24621 <!--%kramer-pre%--> Tristan Louis has a point when he says "Apple is making sure that more developers ensure their sites work with Safari" and may be onto something in suggesting that "Apple is basically pushing Safari as a new platform" although that's more obscure. While the majority of websites work well enough with just about any modern browser, plenty of them treat Internet Explorer<!--%kramer-post%--> Tristan Louis has a point when he says “Apple is making sure that more developers ensure their sites work with Safari” and may be onto something in suggesting that “Apple is basically pushing Safari as a new platform” although that’s more obscure. While the majority of websites work well enough with just about any modern browser, plenty of them treat Internet Explorer

]]> By: Social Media http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24624 Social Media Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/2007/06/12/safari-apples-new-platform/#comment-24624 <!--%kramer-pre%-->and Edit HTML (see image at top, with Firefox at left and the new Safari beta at right) • In Gmail, which I use nonstop, I don't see a way to enable GoogleTalk in Safari, so I can't IM my friends and business associates. Later: Tristan Louis on Safari: Apple’s New Platform? June 12 at 02:22 PM in Computing, Web/Tech | Permalink | Comments (2) | [IMG Bookmark this entry on del.icio.us] | [IMG Blog comments on this post] <!--%kramer-post%--> and Edit HTML (see image at top, with Firefox at left and the new Safari beta at right) • In Gmail, which I use nonstop, I don’t see a way to enable GoogleTalk in Safari, so I can’t IM my friends and business associates. Later: Tristan Louis on Safari: Apple’s New Platform? June 12 at 02:22 PM in Computing, Web/Tech | Permalink | Comments (2) | [IMG Bookmark this entry on del.icio.us] | [IMG Blog comments on this post]

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