Comments on: Fight for Net Neutrality http://www.tnl.net/blog/2010/01/12/fight-for-net-neutrality/ Turning Data into Knowledge Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Freedom of Speech and Net Neutrality in (Southeast) Asia — iRethinks http://www.tnl.net/blog/2010/01/12/fight-for-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-34694 Freedom of Speech and Net Neutrality in (Southeast) Asia — iRethinks Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:20:08 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/?p=1564#comment-34694 [...] Abdurahman Mashur on March 20, 2010 Recently, I have had some conversation with Tristan Louis here. We were discussing about open internet and the side effects of it in asian country; The discussion [...] […] Abdurahman Mashur on March 20, 2010 Recently, I have had some conversation with Tristan Louis here. We were discussing about open internet and the side effects of it in asian country; The discussion […]

]]> By: Abdurahman http://www.tnl.net/blog/2010/01/12/fight-for-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-34690 Abdurahman Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:17:28 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/?p=1564#comment-34690 Hi again, sorry for late reply.i got busy with others problems. for me, and many other middle class society(someone who has things todo, such work, life etc) is expecting stable conditions, personally i dont care who's going to do what in the government sector. but when things like this happens, it affects to our life (small example, demonstration in capital due to bailout-bank century case-). it affecting hundreds of indonesian to late from work, how much we lost from that? these open internet is misused by several people in elite politics to bomb and push their opinion to the society(remember we have high rates unemployment rate), and lead them to demonstration(even they paid the demonstrators). it's good if we are having average education level to high school, some years ago, there's NGO who burned any internet cafe they found due to leaked porn things; even the police said that they will investigate the case. in their opinion is internet=porn. whats the relation from internet cafe with the porn site? we have different definition about internet with the NGO i guess ;) Hi again, sorry for late reply.i got busy with others problems.

for me, and many other middle class society(someone who has things todo, such work, life etc) is expecting stable conditions, personally i dont care who’s going to do what in the government sector.

but when things like this happens, it affects to our life (small example, demonstration in capital due to bailout-bank century case-). it affecting hundreds of indonesian to late from work, how much we lost from that?

these open internet is misused by several people in elite politics to bomb and push their opinion to the society(remember we have high rates unemployment rate), and lead them to demonstration(even they paid the demonstrators).

it’s good if we are having average education level to high school,

some years ago, there’s NGO who burned any internet cafe they found due to leaked porn things; even the police said that they will investigate the case. in their opinion is internet=porn.

whats the relation from internet cafe with the porn site? we have different definition about internet with the NGO i guess ;)

]]> By: Tristan Louis http://www.tnl.net/blog/2010/01/12/fight-for-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-34685 Tristan Louis Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:33:36 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/?p=1564#comment-34685 But this makes exactly the case FOR an open internet. The information about corruption is a good thing and using the internet to spread would only improve democracy, don't you think? TNL But this makes exactly the case FOR an open internet. The information about corruption is a good thing and using the internet to spread would only improve democracy, don’t you think?

TNL

]]> By: Abdurahman http://www.tnl.net/blog/2010/01/12/fight-for-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-34684 Abdurahman Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:23:09 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/?p=1564#comment-34684 this is one of the examples http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/1999/06/11/our-attorney-general.html someone release the transcript in the mailing list and it spread out few hours later. this lead to the president's impeachment. the transcription is about president direction to some law case happens in indonesia. the people here are easily burned by political,social and religions issues;. same things happens in neighboring countries (malaysia and singapore). they are censoring(however, indonesia is not censoring the internet, except porn and gambling site) their internet in order to keep public safe. and... same things happens in china. i believe if they practices open internet could lead to public riot though... the culture is just different, but i still support that internet should be transparent and neutral. this is one of the examples

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/1999/06/11/our-attorney-general.html
someone release the transcript in the mailing list and it spread out few hours later. this lead to the president’s impeachment.

the transcription is about president direction to some law case happens in indonesia.

the people here are easily burned by political,social and religions issues;. same things happens in neighboring countries (malaysia and singapore).

they are censoring(however, indonesia is not censoring the internet, except porn and gambling site) their internet in order to keep public safe.
and… same things happens in china.

i believe if they practices open internet could lead to public riot though…

the culture is just different, but i still support that internet should be transparent and neutral.

]]> By: Tristan Louis http://www.tnl.net/blog/2010/01/12/fight-for-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-34683 Tristan Louis Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:31:54 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/?p=1564#comment-34683 Abdurahman, An interesting perspective. What kind of bad things happen due to leaked documents? And would government or corporate control of the internet really make those things not happen, make things better, or make them worse? You bring a different angle to this and I'd love to know more. Abdurahman,

An interesting perspective. What kind of bad things happen due to leaked documents? And would government or corporate control of the internet really make those things not happen, make things better, or make them worse? You bring a different angle to this and I’d love to know more.

]]> By: Abdurahman http://www.tnl.net/blog/2010/01/12/fight-for-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-34682 Abdurahman Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:12:52 +0000 http://www.tnl.net/blog/?p=1564#comment-34682 Hi, I think open internet is good for private sector. However it could be dangerous for public safety. I'm living in south east asia country and bad things happen due to leaked documents. what im trying to say is. the rule(open internet) might happen in america, but it could be dangerous to general safety in certain country(like my place) Hi,

I think open internet is good for private sector. However it could be dangerous for public safety. I’m living in south east asia country and bad things happen due to leaked documents.

what im trying to say is. the rule(open internet) might happen in america, but it could be dangerous to general safety in certain country(like my place)

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