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Is LinkedIn the new Netscape or the new Google?

This week, LinkedIn, the social net­work for pro­fes­sion­als went pub­lic and many prog­nos­ti­ca­tors have men­tioned it being sim­i­lar to the stock craze around Netscape at the begin­ning of the dot­com era. In order to assess if that were truly the case, I decided to run some num­bers against this IPO and also run some com­par­isons against the Google IPO, which was another tech IPO that was seen as ludi­crous at the time.

Look­ing at the basics

As fre­quent read­ers of TNL.net know, I have to a ten­dency to try to run some num­bers before pass­ing judge­ment. Often­times, I dis­cover that my hunch are cor­rect but, almost as often, I find some inter­est­ing and sur­pris­ing nugget of infor­ma­tion in the data. Ulti­mately, though, it’s a ques­tion of gath­er­ing the infor­ma­tion, some­thing that too few peo­ple seem will­ing to spend time on.

So for this IPO, I decided to inves­ti­gate how some fun­da­men­tals may be work­ing either for or against the suc­cess of the LinkedIn IPO. My instinct was telling me that the fun­da­men­tals may be dif­fer­ent now but I needed the data to assert which way things went. A lot of search­ing through both the web (and, as I men­tioned last week, get­ting his­tor­i­cal data can be hard on the web) and through paper record (books and mag­a­zines I still keep in my library), I was able to come up with the fol­low­ing chart:

Name Netscape LinkedIn Google
IPO Date August 9, 1995 May 19,2011 August 19, 2004
Ticker NSCP LNKD GOOG
Mar­ket NASDAQ NYSE NASDAQ
Strike Price $28 $45 $85
Amount Raised $9.5 mil­lion $353 mil­lion $1.67 bil­lion
# of shares issued 339,285 7. 84 million 19.6 mil­lion
Value based on strike price $1.39 bil­lion $4.3 bil­lion $23 bil­lion
First day high $75 $122.69 $104.06
End of day price $58.25 $94.25 $100.33
Mar­ket Cap. First Day Close $2.9 bil­lion $8.4 bil­lion $27.1 bil­lion
Rev­enue $696,000 $243 mil­lion $1.4 bil­lion
Profit (Loss) ($8 mil­lion) $15 mil­lion $250 mil­lion

One of the things that become appar­ent at first glance is that we are talk­ing about totally dif­fer­ent scales of busi­ness. Netscape was a com­pany oper­at­ing at a loss ($8 mil­lion) with very small rev­enue (not even a mil­lion dol­lars) when it went pub­lic. By com­par­i­son, LinkedIn seems to be a rel­a­tively healthy busi­ness with prof­its of $15 mil­lion on almost a quar­ter bil­lion in rev­enue. On the other hand, that busi­ness paled in com­par­i­son to Google, which was gen­er­at­ing prof­its of a quar­ter bil­lion dol­lars on rev­enues of $1.4 bil­lion in the run-up to its IPO.

Adding to the chal­lenge in com­par­ing them was the fact that they were all look­ing to raise dif­fer­ent amounts so I decided to play “what if” with the dif­fer­ent stocks.

What if LinkedIn had launched as Netscape?

I decided to nor­mal­ize the data based on a rev­enue, assum­ing that LinkedIn would try to get a mar­ket cap­i­tal­iza­tion equiv­a­lent to that of Netscape based on revenue:

Name Netscape LinkedIn
Value based on strike price $1.39 bil­lion $4.3 bil­lion
Rev­enue $696,000 $243 mil­lion
Mar­ket cap / revenue 1997 17.69
Linkedin value assum­ing Netscape mar­ket­cap / revenue $485 bil­lion
Netscape value assum­ing LinkedIn mar­ket­cap / revenue $12.312 mil­lion

So, already here, we see some fun­da­men­tal dif­fer­ences. Netscape would not even be allowed to go pub­lic today based on the pal­try rev­enue they were gen­er­at­ing at the time of their IPO and LinkedIn would turn into the largest cor­po­ra­tion in the world if the same logic had been applied to its rev­enue stream.

What if LinkedIn had launched as Google?

But the irra­tional exu­ber­ance around the Netscape IPO should not serve as a way to give LinkedIn a clean pass. In order to do so, I decided to com­pare the com­pany to Google at the time of its IPO. Peo­ple who were around then will remem­ber that the Google IPO hap­pened at a time when inter­net stocks were mostly out of favor but Google was gar­ner­ing a very strong fol­low­ing. In a lot of ways, Google had the media pres­ence of a Netscape in its time but with real rev­enue and earnings.

As price to earn­ing ratio are a valu­able way to eval­u­ate com­pa­nies, I decided to base my com­par­isons between LinkedIn and Google on it. So here goes:

Name LinkedIn Google
Strike price $45 $85
First Day Close $94.25 $100.33
Profit $15 mil­lion $250 mil­lion
P/E ratio at opening 286.66 92
P/E ratio at close 560 108.4

The dif­fer­ence largely comes down to the num­ber of shares out­stand­ing but ulti­mately, it looks like LinkedIn P/E ratio are not that wild and while IPO Open­ing day are too small a data set to really make wild gen­er­al­iza­tion, it seems that the LinkedIn IPO was one that basked largely in rel­a­tively ratio­nal behavior.

Con­clu­sion

If the LinkedIn IPO is an exam­ple of what this boom cycle is going to look like, we may be in luck as the mar­kets seem to be act­ing a much more ratio­nal, profit-focused man­ner than they have in the past. My read is that there may even be some level of con­ser­vatism to the way mar­kets are approach­ing inter­net stocks and a healthy skep­ti­cism that will ben­e­fit real com­pa­nies by weed­ing out the ones which wouldn’t make the cut under nor­mal conditions.

Update: Some of my cal­cu­la­tions were wrong and, thanks to many com­menters, I finally have the P/E num­bers cor­rected. Based on the new num­ber, the con­clu­sion can be vastly dif­fer­ent as the P/E ratio for LinkedIn today seems to be much higher than it was for a com­pany like Google. Can LinkedIn be 5 times as suc­cess­ful as Google has been since its IPO? I don’t know. Is there some infla­tion due to a more opti­mistic mar­ket out­look? Absolutely.

At the end of the day, it looks like LinkedIn is over­priced, when com­pared to Google, and under­priced, when com­pared to Netscape. What that means in terms of invest­ment strat­egy is some­thing I’ll leave to peo­ple smarter than me to fig­ure out.

Originally published on May 22, 2011 in Business . You may find related thoughts pieces under the following terms: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

  • Chris

    Hi, thanks for dig­ging up the data for Netscape and Google… quite insight­ful. Your analy­sis is good, except for the very last sec­tion. The ‘P’ in the P/E ratio is not the opening/closing stock price, but is the mar­ket cap. Linkedin has open­ing and clos­ing P/Es of about 287 and 560, respectively.

    Thanks for the thought­ful post!

    –Chris

    • http://www.tnl.net Tris­tan Louis

      Isn’t the for­mula for P/E Price / earn­ing per share? So first, I cal­cu­lated the earn­ings per share by total earn­ings ($15 mil­lion) by the total num­ber of shares. Then I took the share price and divided it by the earn­ings per share. Was my math wrong?

      • Marc

        Tris­tan, I believe you got the earn­ings per share wrong. You meant to divide the prof­its by the num­ber of shares but ended up divid­ing by the price per share. Using your num­ber I get LinkedIn earn­ings of only $0.16 per share. Com­pare that to the price per share you get a P/E ratio of close to 600.
        –Marc

  • Artkim

    yes your math is way off. the eps for lnkd is nowhere near $6.

  • Neek

     This is a prob­lem when using cor­re­la­tion as your basis– any­thing really goes and your ratio­nale is only as good as any.

    Thing is, LinkedIn is a solid com­pany but is a very dif­fer­ent one from the mass-market dom­i­nat­ing exam­ples of Netscape and Google.  Face­book is the only real anal­ogy to these two. What LinkedIn is is a har­bin­ger of things to come. That is all.

    • http://www.tnl.net Tris­tan Louis

      Unfor­tu­nately, Face­book isn’t pub­lic yet so we can’t make that com­par­i­son based on the same data yet.

  • Omega

     Let’s see… if LInkedin issued 7.48 mil­lion shares and its earn­ings were $15 mil­lion, then the earn­ings per share work out to $2.01 per share. At an open­ing price of $45, that’s a P/E of 23.4, and at a clos­ing price of $94.25 a P/E of 46.9. (Of course, if there are addi­tional shares of Linkedin held by insid­ers not offered at the IPO, then the cal­cu­la­tion would be dif­fer­ent, based on the cor­rect total num­ber of shares issued.)

    • http://www.tnl.net Tris­tan Louis

      Actu­ally, isn’t the earn­ings per share based on ALL shares, not just shares issued? But maybe you’re right. Could other con­trib­u­tors (with a bet­ter under­stand­ing of EPS) chime in. If Omega is cor­rect, I’ll change the num­bers in the entry.

  • Anony­mous

     Something’s def­i­nitely off in your math. LinkedIn makes $15m profit. They’ve issued 7.3m shares, you don’t list the total num­ber of shares out­stand­ing, but I under­stood they did only a sliver of the whole com­pany. Even with the 7.3m shares you get an EPS of ~$2 vs. your $6.3. Also the sim­plest way to do P/E (roughly) would be divide the mar­ket cap by profit (by share you’d just divide both fig­ures by the # of shares out­stand­ing, so that can be taken out of the for­mula). That way you get to Chris’s #s.

    • http://www.tnl.net Tris­tan Louis

      Good point on mar­ket cap / profit… Will make the changes to the entry.

  • Rdx2

     Com­par­ing linkedin or face­book to Google’s IPO or google as a com­pany is grossly incorrect.

    Google hit upon the magic of adwords, a SEARCH adver­tis­ing prod­uct which took off excel­lently and made them super rich. If you see rev­enue streams of face­book or linkedin, you see them strug­gling with inher­ently hacky and non scal­able mon­e­ti­za­tion like hir­ing solu­tions, vir­tual goods, me too daily deals, like but­tons on levi jeans. Face­book adver­tis­ing has extremely low CTRs and extremely high inven­tory. Linkedin has bet­ter inven­tory but not enough of it. Just a search on the inter­net will make it clear that they can­not pos­si­bly increase their rev­enue 5 fold in 2 years, atleast through the cur­rent ads sys­tem. The ROI on most ads is pretty low, which was not the case with adwords.

    But since you are into num­bers only…your analy­sis might make sense if they were to some­how scale their mon­e­ti­za­tion efforts, else you will be pretty much doing this : http://xkcd.com/605/

    • http://www.tnl.net Tris­tan Louis

      I was try­ing to find some ways to ratio­nally com­pare com­pa­nies prospects. Remem­ber that when Google went pub­lic, peo­ple thought the 20 bil­lions val­u­a­tion was insane. So I’m try­ing to inject a lit­tle extra logic either in sup­port or against LinkedIn.

  • C3l3st0

    i pre­fer XING though

  • Mar­tin

    Yes Tristan, P/E is price/earnings per share. But earn­ing per share is cal­cu­lated as profit/all shares, not as profit/issued shares. Chris’s cal­cu­la­tions are cor­rect. Seems like LinkedIn’s val­u­a­tion is extremely high after all.

    • http://www.tnl.net Tris­tan Louis

      OK. Will cor­rect on TNL.net

  • Markj­may­hew

    LinkedIn didn’t IPO in May 2010, it was 2011

    • http://www.tnl.net Tris­tan Louis

      oops. Cor­rected on TNL.net

  • http://www.tnl.net Tris­tan Louis

    Inter­est­ing. Thanks for sharing.

  • Dlljay2

    After the 90 day lockup is over.….just watch the shorts take this baby for a ride…this was all about NYSE try­ing to be Tech star ipo go to…

    • http://www.tnl.net Tris­tan Louis

      I guess time will tell :)

  • Cor­ner­Pocket

    Poor com­par­isons. You should be com­par­ing linkedin to the offer­ings from mon­ster, hotjobs, career­builder, &c.

    These num­bers really mean noth­ing with­out growth.

    • http://www.tnl.net Tris­tan Louis

      That would be a good idea if those guys were pub­licly traded enti­ties on their own but I seem to remem­ber that Mon­ster and Hotjobs are divi­sions of other com­pa­nies with dif­fer­ent busi­ness and those com­pa­nies do not break out the num­bers spe­cific to those enti­ties so it makes the com­par­i­son difficult.